While coursing through the list of those whom I follow, (I have 181 of them at present! – What’s the Use if I don’t follow some, when so many do me the honour of following me!), came across Elena‘s blog today.
She has written powerfully about people, particularly those in the catholic church, who give Religion a Bad name, though she puts it differently, of course.
I deliberately chose Not to Re-blog this, because, — now hear this, — her article is 4852 words long. Mine says 240. Shall give a reference to hers at the end of this post.
I Do differ from her in that it is Not only the catholic church that is doing it wrong. To read my own post on the Extreme love for money on part of the catholic church, please click here.
And, about francis, the present pope, for all his simplicity, he still sits on top of the vatican Bank, and its Museum.
But some pictures from her write-up really Clarify all that she wants to say:
Above, the vatican doing it wrong.
The vatican Bank doing it wrong.
The BANKS doing it wrong. And I agree with Elena in this. The BANKERS all want to keep gobbling More and More, BUT WANT TO RECEIVE COMMUNION, AND THEREBY BE CONSIDERED GOOD, EVEN MORE! The church just Obliges them, and thus Encourages them.
The next two pics show how WE are doing it wrong.
On this Heading of Infallibility, What the Cartoon says is Enough! But to make it Clearer, I am NOT rolling on the Floor, Laughing, ONLY BECAUSE my Floor is quite a bit Dirty.
politicos bring out laws which works out Very Well for Them. And the catholic church has wasted a Lot of Time and Energy in things like these. This particular clause, if that is the word for it, has been used, as far as I know, Just once, and Not on an Article of the First importance.
If Only ‘Dogmatic’ meant Just this:
Wrote the following lines in response to Jami’s comment on my ‘Ipso Facto Excommunication – For Whom?‘ It is worth a post, so here it is!
The Idea of the Sacrament of Reconciliation, as it is called nowadays, is a Great one, and based on Christ’s words.
Here too, I take His words, “If You Forgive People’s sins, they are forgiven; If You do not forgive them, they are not forgiven,” as in John 20:23. All quotes from TEV.
The catholic church, on the other hand, likes to base itself on Matthew 16:18-19, which I give You passim: “…Peter, You are a rock, and on this rock I will build my church. …What You prohibit on earth will be prohibited in heaven, and what You permit on earth, will be permitted in heaven.” Thus keeping things under the church’s thumb and control!
The church, while citing Matthew 18:18, ignores the fact that practically the Same words were spoken to the Disciples in general, and not just to Peter in this case. Typical church mentality, which is not different from ‘Rich man’ mentality.
Sadly, today, the priests are not interested in hearing ‘confessions.’ Nor are the people, in going for it. And, worst of all, today, I, myself, who believe in the Sacrament, find it difficult to practice, as I do not have confidence in them. Bad and sad to say of one’s fellow priests, but there it is. There are SURE to be good ones. Shall have to wait!
This post is a small commentary on what is mentioned in my previous one, namely: Terrorism, and Christianity. Continued from there…
“If the penitent, without sufficient cause, does not make the denunciation within a month from the time he or she has learned the obligation to do so, excommunication is incurred ipso facto.” (From: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14134b.htm).
I CALL THIS CRIMINAL STUPIDITY.
The Priest has made the Advances. The Penitent is the Victim. But the church ipso facto excommunicates the Victim. It should have been done to the priest in question.
Recalling all that INQUISITION and things, We see that Rowdyism, Torture and Terror Have existed in the church. I had Not known this Present, Existent Rowdyism, when I was Young. Even when I was 50 years old. These are the revelations within the last few years.
Here are some Very Recent Remarks from a cardinal sin! Hahahahahah! Well, if You insist on the right name, it is cardinal george pell of Melbourne.
‘Years ago he offered the Fosters* a little money and warned them any attempt to sue the church would be “strenuously” defended. Particularly blunt was Tim Seccull who has been the Fosters’ barrister for a decade or more: “What does the use of the adverb ‘strenuously’ add other than menace?”’ [Fosters* – ‘ the parents of the two little girls raped by Father Kevin O’Donnell.‘ See article: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/22/pell-opting-for-moral-low-road-comparing-church-to-trucking?CMP=twt_gu
Regarding Menace, I came across that in Nagarcoil. The diocese had had the Leaders of the catholic community Beaten Up! When I had gone there, there had been Two Vehicles of the usual police, and Two of the RAF, India’s Rapid Action Force. The church’s way of doing things!?
But Why are they grilling pell? What is this man doing?! …Collecting Salutes, and grinning away. Useless.
pell had said this too: ‘one of the functions of the leadership of the church is to control and eradicate this.’ Don’t even think of merely ‘Controlling’ these things, pell/francis. Eradicate them. Unfortunately, We have Seen Absolutely Nothing done in this regards.
We say that People are Full of APATHY. And the People Prove it by posting pictures of Places, Parties and Beer Bottles, when the world is going to the Cats on a Fast Wheelbarrow. VERY FEW are the Christians who Involve themselves in Social Affairs, using the Social Network. And For Why? Below I give instances of the EXTREME LOVE FOR MONEY that has crept into our bishops and such. When the bishops love the money, Why should the People Not?!
The catholic church is not alone in being in Love with Money. But I, being a catholic, shall limit myself to that.
You Remember the post of the Docomo advert, where some Boys playing Cricket turn up at the Door of a Wife-Beater? Merely by Turning up and Ringing the Bell, They brought about Change. Changes in the Situation, the church and the World, Can be brought about, If only We All Involve Ourselves in that. This post if offered in that Hope.
Do You know that The diocese of Kottar has Many Churches Locked Up and Without Mass? Taking Just One case, The Parish of the Holy Family in Nagarcoil has, as part of its ‘property,’ Two Marriage Halls, and a Fish Market, which are Simply Minting Money. Like in Lakhs. All that money is given to the diocese. Yet, because the parish church has a Nice, and Beautiful Large Area ‘Free’ in the front, The diocese would like to build a Shopping Mall there! And the People, the Laity, Do Not Want This!
Coming to the necessity of graphics, gave a search for the Church in Google. Lo and Behold, None! But they could not play around with Google Maps. Here is the place, with the Large, Free Area Clearly Shown by Satellite. The building at lower left is the Marriage Hall, built one on top of the other.
The Eucharist has not been celebrated for nearly Two Years in the Church, except Sporadically. The Point is that The People do Not want a ‘Mall’ in the free area, but the Diocese Does! So, When the Congregation did not agree to the idea of a Mall, the diocese stopped giving them Masses! The parishioners, in this case, sadly, went to the Civil Court, asking it to Intervene, and to tell the e authorities to give them Masses and Sacraments. More than (rs) 1.2 Crores have been spent by the People in this case. These things can be verified in the courts of the area.
Of course the ecclesiastical authorities would not put it like that. They would say that Each Parish should have a Parish Council. This council would be packed with the toadies of the e-authorities! But the Laity sees through these things.
It is said that More than 50 Parishes in that area are undergoing this kind of trouble. One church has been ‘Locked Up’ for more than 3 Years!
I know of these things First Hand. It was from these journeys to the Holy Family Parish that I wrote about the 2600 Kms in in 104 Hours (Running Time), and the Young Man biting the Young Woman’s lips on the Nagarcoil station platform.
I am considered Very much a Black Sheep in the catholic circles, (Any Wonder?)! Haha. But I am Sure I am One of the Whitest of them. You can form Your own Judgement when I get the time to share on that! …the People of the Parish in question had thought of calling Me to be their Parish Priest! I pointed out to them that 1. A priest could not even offer the Eucharist in a Parish Church without the Knowledge or the Invitation of the Parish Priest, and 2. A Priest could not just ‘Appoint’ himself the PP of a parish. Bishops do that.
And I had further pointed out that, If they were to Invite me to be the PP there, and If I had agreed, the Parish would have ceased being part of the Diocese or even the catholic church. …That made them Think, and they gave up the Idea. But, Considering that the Parishioners could afford to spend rs. 1.2 Crores in litigation, (so far), It can Very Well be Imagined that the diocese would have given up its left arm before giving up the parish!
kottar diocese did involve itself in underhand tactics, using Goons, Rowdyism, and calling the police in, etc. You know how the police are called, especially in strength, like 4 Lorry Strong? With the RAF (Rapid Action Force) thrown in? Exactly. Much money must have been spent on these things.
Some years ago, the archbishop of Madras had been in the News, and had faced shame over matters connected with ‘church Property.’ I have No intention of Insulting anybody, but I do believe in Naming and Shaming the guilty. (PLEASE do not quote Those who live by the Sword, etc. I Know the Verse) The link below is headlined: ‘Court orders arrest of Archbishop Chinnappa.’
All this is becoming a matter of FRAUD. This is Rampant in Velankanni, the famous shrine near Nagappattinam. This same thing, FRAUD, raised its Ugly Head in what is called the ‘Town Parish’ in Erode. Here, the People finally gave in, saying, ‘What we gave, We gave to the Lord.’ Meaning, ‘On your head be it.’ …All these places, incidentally, are in Tamil Nadu.
From my Friend, TM, have heard that in Kerala, bishops own Rubber plantations, which bring them Lakhs of rupees as income. Very ‘bishopish,’ of course. We can see just how Well he is sticking to his duties.
You have heard of ‘Social Service Centres?’ Every diocese has one. And there must be cut-throat competition to become the head of one of those. Because you can take your cut before passing any project, giving 10% to the bishop first, of course.
Roughly one third of the world is Muslim, and one third, Christian. And the Christian Churches, organized as they are, can be Such Instruments of Change. And they were that too. But today, the ecclesiastical authorities are rolling about in money, and the Laity find it easier to Retreat into Apathy.
Somehow, the words AAP-tard, bjp-tard, etc, started going the rounds. They meant a person who supported the AAP or the bjp, No Matter What, ie, even if the party or the leader was in the wrong. Thus, A ****tard is one who BLINDLY Supports his party or his leader, Blind to Reality. We should always make Use of a Good thing. Hence a ‘catholic-tard.’
As You would know, I am a catholic Priest, myself. But that does Not, and Should Not, prevent me from Speaking out when things are wrong in the church. Nor Should You. Paul did that, pointing out things to Peter, as in Galatians 2:11-14. Then We have had St. Teresa of Avila, Joan of Arc, just to name a few.
Blind_to_Reality_by_Espiritu_Libre, from: www.deviantart.com
Searching for images for ‘Blind to Reality,’ came across the above, and Very Good it is too!
Many people become Uncomfortable with Criticism. As for the Very NEED for it, Please click here. I am Not saying that there anything Wrong with the catholic Faith. In particular, the Catholic Theology cannot be Faulted. But as for putting things into Practice, Wow!
During the same search, came across this, which is also Very Apt.
Whether it is Patriot-ism or Catholic-ism, We cannot afford to Turn Our Face Away from Reality. Wrong is Wrong, as Malcolm says.
catholics, in Large numbers, leave the church and join others. Or Just Drop Out. This is happening very much in the 25-40 year old Age group. I personally Know of at least 10. And good people they are too. This is the Number of those who have Declared their opinions.
Who is Responsible for this? I hold the catholic leadership, the ecclesiastical authorities answerable. The Laxity of Good Leadership brings a Bad Name not only to Christianity, but also to Religion in general.
Here, the case in point is the leadership of the catholic church. Let us leave Christ-is-the-head-of-the-church and all that for now. A True Vicar is ONLY the one who Knows How to listen, Does Listen, and does what is told him. Huge Failures. And remember, Let us not be ‘catholic-tards.’
Both in the Old Testament, eg in Isaiah 56:9-12, and in the New, Especially from the mouth of Jesus, as in: “Beware of the Leaven of the Pharisees and the Sadducees,” Matthew 16:6, the e authorities have come in for a lot of criticism, due to their Lax lives.
In this and the following 2 posts, I shall show some of the Ugly things that have crept into, particularly, the lives of our ecclesiastical authorities. It behooves catholics to put on their thinking caps and consider, and not be ‘tards’ while doing this.
(From my tweets:)
1. The catholic authorities have very kindly given us what We need the MOST, (Haha!). Two new ‘saints’.
2. And men with Such Varied backgrounds! Pp John the 23rd had Opened the Doors/Windows of the church. jp2 closed everything down again!
3. Yet both ‘made’ saints in the Same breath! Haha! And jp2 with sins of Paedophile priests on his conscience, (We presume he had one).
4. More than 15,000 children affected. That is not important for the ecclesiastical authorities.
5. But, as Periyar, a Very Wise man of India said, “There WILL be people to fool us so long as We are ready to be fooled.”
6. Big Crowds at ‘saintification’ ceremony! What to do! People are Bored.