Carvak (चारवाक) pronounced chaar-vaak, is the first of (Indian) philosophies. Its basic tenet is: Just be Careful of the Fish bone!
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Starting from another angle, Google informs Us that a whopping 74% of India are of the lower caste.
The so-called upper castes called the others so because they found that these ‘others’ had No interest in ‘higher things,’ (music included!). [ Note: This is NOT a dissertation on the caste system. ]
Putting it all most simply, it can be said that the l.c. did not Care in things other than eating… etc!
Now does that not Expand the l.c.’s? And it starts getting applied to Much More than India.
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I go on now to state that people are moving into the Carvak philosophy.
(Unless you want to say that they have Long lived there).
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Let’s take the case of #Taiwanese-Citrus-Farmers.
In India, We would call such people (size of farm, t shirt, able to give interviews to the BBC/CNN in English) Rich.
Only about 7% of these products go to to china, which has now banned them on stupid and cooked-up charges (too much ‘sprays!’, they just found it out!). These farmers (and fishermen), are losing those 7 percents. Musk/Ambani losing some change. For that these will criticize their own government, no doubt ready to accept chinese dominion.
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That Exactly is the point. MOST Indians (including Very particularly the employed middle class) do not mind who is at the helm so long as they can eat well, (NO PROBLEM IF THEIR KING EATS RS. 10,000 MEALS)
…buy up ‘Bullet’ motor cycles (status symbols in India), …hang the cost of petrol,
and visit Goa (booze and *** Easily available).
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Taiwan, the satates, rooshia OR INDIA, good sofas, tv sets, and BIRYANI (a dish of meat in rice, special recipes, of course; sometimes made with veggies, but who wants those? …this for India),
these have become the ‘Needs,’ the VALUES(!), of this age.
To the Garbage with Democracy, Freedom, Justice, Decency, Greatness, பெருந்தன்மை, महानता, and all that rot.
In my case, have not written Anything on this my blog for… I can’t rememember how long.
Have been fairly busy on facebook, twitter n a thing called koo, which aspires to be like twitter. …And here are some of my gems(!), which I had shared over all above.
On Gun control (in the US):
and a few more in that vein.
Then quite a few on (against) Abortion. These were very much responding to telecasts over BBC and CNN; (Indians generally don’t care so long as the Awl is not up theirs, and the Indian media is happy to cater to them).
no. 4 is important
and
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Right on the Independence Day of India, the 15th of August, facebook saw fit to block poor ole me. …It is Very much in the grips of the right-wing bjp, currently the ruling party of India.
Why was I blocked? No info. But I suspect, my posts. Do You find these wrong?
And then, when Twitter Unblocked me (!) and I found my pope‘s mewlings, though in and by himself he is a Very good man (and a Poor leader, in my opinion), I dished off these to him.
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Am trying to work more on my Novel. Wish me luck. With Love to You All, Yesudas.
2 issues. Both concerning the catholic church. Prompted by a movie I watched y’day, namely: Spotlight.
Speaking on the movie, neither enjoyed it nor understood it well. Give me Jackie Chan’s Rumble in the Bronx any time.
Spotlight dealt with Pedophile priests in the cath. church, saying the malaise reached farther than individual cases. Organized? Peculiar. But the idea that it ‘lives’ on the support of the Laity is Well said.
Sadly, I am a person personally acquainted with a lot of pain, and not just mine. A whole batch of young nuns who had been raped had come to the ashram of ***, in ***, while I was there. Some of them spoke to me too.
I know 2 grown up men, one of them a priest, victims of sexual abuse when young, and how ‘destroyed’ they are.
I know a number of children, victims of same.
As for myself, a man, in present day Mumbai, but Many years ago, had kissed me on the cheek, (and how! he had ‘sucked’ my cheek into his mouth, the very memory of which revolts); and a senior seminerian, (today a respected member of the clergy), as per his usual practice, had run his hand over my bum while a whole bunch of us were on the stairs. I would bring up, if I were to dwell on it.
Coming back to the cath. church – (let others take up and comment and try to clean up their own groups) – part of the malaise lies with the church which lays so much stock on celibacy. This itself is trying to satisfy the expectation of the Laity!
What I mean to say is, from the Extreme Resulsion I feel from these memories, and from the sharing I have received, I can understand just How Affected victims of sexual abuse feel.
For all that… While the number of those affected by sexual abuse, even within living memory would be Large,
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WHOLE PEOPLES are affected by Caste discrimination.
Unconnected with the cath. church, here’s the latest from India. A boy, a Xth class student (that would make him about 16), upon asking for his mother’s wages for work done, (that means it was being denied), was made to Lick the feet of the so called upper-caste fellow’s feet!
Talking Only of castes, how is the situation in the cath. church?
A young catholic woman, was surrounded by about 40 young men and ragged. I personally know of this.
A young man, accused of ‘riding his motorcycle fast,’ (false charge), had stones thrown at him while he was riding. He had been injured in the process. …Once, while he was taking me to the bus stop, I saw the so-called upper-caste boys pick up stones. They desisted only after noticing me.
A very highly educated man (being of the so called lower caste), now about 65, is in shambles because of the way he is treated, again by the so called upper caste. Case personally known.
Let us come to Priests. Priests of the so called lower caste All but Weep.
Tamil Nadu is Most infamous in this. Even the bishops are chosen with caste in mind.
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But it is not only India and its castes. As I have asked earlier, Has there ever been a Non-white pope?
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So what say, which is worse: Sexual abuse in the cath. church or the Racism in it? 😦
Eg, Curses. As I have declared in my About, and as I Am, a catholic priest! You would it Difficult to find other priests doing this.
Because I Empathise.
The words go: No man is an Island, No man stands alone . Each man’s joy is joy to me, Each man’s grief is my own.
That says it.
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2. But are Priests even allowed to speak like this?
Let’s take what would seem one of the Hottest verses in the Bible: in pic, and below that, as text. In both cases, the speaker/prayer is supposed to be a Hebrew, reasons below.
The page, habitually gives the Context, at right. Of significance are the words in blue. Below, that same thought, of Babylonians dashing Hebrew babies against walls, in picture.
This is supposed to show Babylonians killing the Hebrews. It takes some ‘work’ to kill an adult. To do that to babes in arms Much simpler. Catch it by the foot and dash its head against the nearest wall. The mother would not be disturbed by a crying baby while you rape her.
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The point: of all this… The Bible uses Stronger words than Fire and Brimstone. …Indians, in particular, know that a Sannyasi, one who has given his life to The Lord (that’s me, folks!), does not pull back his words.
The #bjp authorities in Karnataka in India who were not allowing Girls to cover their Heads, have backtracked.
My heartiest #Kudos to the #HijabWarriors. So the pig #bjp is learning that they cannot lead #India into #Fascism. Pic says so n so fell into the gutter, and all the gutter-worms came OUT!
It will Not work for anybody (#Kanimozhi) to say that it is ’The Woman’s Right to choose what she wants.’ …Madam, if you wear the Wrong clothes, you give freedom to the ’Bad’ guys, bec of whom the #Hijab n #Ghoongat are worn, to grab your pu**y, rather a Common occurrance in the #West. …Baldie is not even paying attention; and he cannot be part of tRump’s security detail (with that paunch?)
This post, long in my mind, is inspired by my Good Friend, Anna Waldherr. I had gone through two of her posts on the page/category: catholic church sex scandals:
Virginity and Celibacy Fascinates mankind, precisely because Everyone knows just How Difficult it is to Refrain from Sex.
In India, those who are close to a priest might ask: “How do You Sleep?” …I have been asked that.
You go to a Homeopathic doctor. He comes to know You are a priest. He asks: “What do You do for Sex?” (I know that patients are routinely asked about sexual behaviour in this treatment).
That is Why those who refrain from it, or claim they refrain from it(!) are held in such Awe, to the point of Veneration.
Yet there have been, and there Are those who gave up sex (sublimated, as some like to emphasise), for higher purposes, including religion. …Naughty man that I am, in the above I would include those who are Just Not Interested in sex for various reasons.
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So far I was trying to point out that the Sex Drive is one of the Strongest.
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As is my usual practice, shall speak Only of the catholic church.
We see in the Bible that ancient or even contemporary beliefs and practices were taken as a basis,but in Every case, Astonishingly New Conclusions were drawn.
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The catholic priesthood and the Bible.
Christ had Not made ‘the Unmarried state’ a ‘condition’ for being one of His Apostles (by definition, chosen from among the chosen).
True, He had remained Unmarried, and people (particularly the church) will quote Matthew 19.12, the one about ‘Eunuchs for sake of the kingdom.’
Except for John the apostle, all the others are said to have been married.
(Above: depiction of Jesus healing Peter’s Mother in law. Luke 4:38-41.)
Hardly surprising in a society which considered marriage ‘Obligatory,’ vide:
‘…Male and female He created them. God blessed them; and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth…” (Gen 1.27-8).
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On the other side, the idea of ‘unmarried clergy’ started Many centuries after the Apostolic times. The people liked it, and the ‘church’ obliged. What the people like, the church is Eager to give.
The Laity like it!
A third element, if I may call it that, has to be considered. …THE LAITY would not like it if the church considers changes in this regard.
I state that the catholic church took up and promoted ‘celibacy,’ seeing the fascination it held for the masses.
Like a Bull dog, it is holding On to it.
All the above can be called
THE REASONS FOR THE UNMARRIED CLERGY IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
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As an Interlude, consider these:
Popes who were married
St. Peter, Apostle St. Felix III 483-492 (2 children) St. Hormidas 514-523 (1 son) St. Silverus (Antonia) 536-537 Hadrian II 867-872 (1 daughter) Clement IV 1265-1268 (2 daughters) Felix V 1439-1449 (1 son)
Popes who were the sons of other popes, other clergy
THE EFFECTS OF THE UNMARRIED CLERGY IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
I remember Our Dear Father De’Cyper of Our Theologate in Ranchi telling Us:
“The vow of Chastity does not mean just being Celibate (Unmarried), but being ‘Chaste,’ [Not having (Any Kind of) Sex].”
Given that, unable to speak of times 30-40 years ago, I would say that
A mere 30% of priests (bishops and cardinals are priests) might not be having some kind of sex. In other words, 70% Do practise some kind of sex. (All ‘my’ numbers, of course!)
[ Before some ‘wise’ person tells me: ‘Stop washing Your dirty linen in public,’ let me say that this article goes Much further; towards a solution, albeit old, definitely Ignored. ]
Whatever the effects of this at the Pearly Gates, I want to focus on:
The EFFECTS of The Unmarried PriesthoodRight here on Earth.
…When I was in the seminary, there was this guy one year my senior, (real case, You see), – who would invariably run his hand over the bum of anybody in front of him, particularly while climbing stairs. The last I checked, he is a senior priest, a well liked ‘preacher,’ to boot.
Once ‘I’ got his attention. Here come the ‘effects.’ I almost brought up (vomited, for those without the degree).
Those who have been Molested in More serious ways would laugh at me, for citing this.
Yes, a mere touch had been / could be So Repugnant, (I took to making Serious effort to avoid his ‘attentions’). Anybody who has had these kinds of Negative (sexual) experiences would understand.
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When I was at a certain ashram in North India, a group of young Nuns who had been raped were brought in for a time of peace and quiet. They were walking Zombies, fearsome examples of the ‘effect’ under discussion here.
(Inserting this pic in an effort to keep things interesting. The Dear Sisters were Nowhere as meaningless as this).
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I know at least two grown men today, who, though ‘successful’ in their fields, are literally broken inside. Every sort of Decorum forbids Us to say anything More about them.
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Do We Need such ‘Effects?’
This is the Most Important point here.
The Effects, which Include seemingly unerasable Shame, unnecessary Guilt, and Anger, produce Serious side effects of their own.
In short, give Rise to Sin.
When Christ has said, “”If anyone causes one of these little ones–those who believe in me–to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.” Matthew 18.6, NIV.,
WHY have not this Abominable law, those who brought it into being, and those who keep it so, been Abolished?
What has happened is this:
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Over this issue and many others, churches have catered to the ‘wishes’ of the people, (as had Aaron with the golden calf, (Exodus 32)), and to people through the ages saying: “Give Us Pleasant things.”
Moses had been Man enough to practise what he believed in and preached, that day. Today’s hierarchy proves to the world that they Are Eunuchs (with Apologies to Eunuchs; No offence intended. Just using age old examples).
About ‘pleasant things,’ a few quotes.
‘They say to the seers, “See no more visions!” and to the prophets, “Give us no more visions of what is right! Tell us pleasant things, prophesy illusions.’ (Isaiah 30.10).
‘For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires.’ (2 Timothy 4.3).
(About Jesus), ‘On hearing it, many of his disciples said, “This is a hard teaching. Who can accept it?”‘ (John 6.60).
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Christian Hierarchy, for a Long time, has fallen prey to mammon.
Showing You a couple of pics that have interested me very much.
Those who are interested in Cricket will remember that many cricket sportsmen, esp from the Caribbean, sport thick, heavy, silver(?) chains. …These gentlemen, seemingly priests, are rolling in gold.
But who am I to comment on that? …The ‘vatican bank,’ it seems, is a Major shareholder in Beretta Arms; which produces not just hand guns, but Military Rifles.
From the picture it seems Beretta produces even (Military) helicopters and Tanks!
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The lifestyle of cardinals,
From search on: Residences of cardinals.
bishops, and even priests is luxurious.
The money for all this comes, and will keep coming from the ‘mass,’ as in the strength of the congregation.
The church does not want to lose its name as ‘The Most Numerous.’ …Loss in these numbers would also bring a Solid dent in the revenue. The church is More worried about these things than the Wrath of its Founder and Master.
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Solutions to the issue of ‘Unmarried priesthood’ in the catholic church.
The catholic hierarchy, the leaders, have ‘conveniently‘ forgotten the words at the end of their favourite quote:
“The one who can accept this should accept it.” (Matthew 19.12, end).
The authorities would say, “Of course, if You can accept celibacy come forward for priesthood.”
But the point is, WHO gave them the authority to conjoin celibacy and priesthood, when, in Every case (in All translations), Christ made it a choice?
Ergo, Here’s what I call my ‘Solution.’
Those joining for the priesthood, and even those already ordained, cannot and Should Not have Celibacy forced upon them. If they wish to marry, they should be allowed that; without being asked to forego the priesthood.
Married Priesthood Should be allowed in the catholic church.
Subsequently, those who think they want to ‘give up’ sex, (among the priests), cannot and Should Not be given Any higher regard.
Everyday I ‘decide’ (how feeble my decisions are, at least in this regard!) to visit, and work on my blog.
In my opinion, the blogging world has deep thinkers, twitter affords very quick news, facebook somewhere in between, and whatsapp for the feeble (You can complete that word). I use all four platforms.
While perhaps 0.5% of the world is Alive, Active and Kicking, most particularly in twitter, the rest of the 99.5% behaves as did people in the times of Noah. Luke 17:26-28.
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Perhaps a month ago, a 19-20 yo girl of the ‘supposed’ lower caste, was Gang raped, had her tongue cut out, her back broken. All these 30 days the Indian police saw fit to do nothing. Then immediately after her death, they saw fit to burn (‘cremate’) her body at 2.30 AM, locking up her family in their compound.
Now, with the body burnt, officials, administrative and police are denying charges of rape.
I seem to be getting Famous [ thanks to the #BJP! ]. …Shameless of me to say that, of course. But here’s what’s happening. Please read on. This shows The Depravity of India’s Current political structure.
Had been getting 1 or 2 ‘Friend Requests,’ which had brought my ‘fan’s’ numbers to some 500 uptil some time ago. Yesterday, on the 19th of Jan, got nearly a 100 of them. This morning, as I start working, Facebook is showing that I have more than 200 notifications. That is becoming famous! Heehee.
And the left corner expands to:
And when I go to Facebook:
Expanded, again:
Now to a little commentary.
I seem to have hit the ‘Nerves’ of the #modi, and the #bjp (currently the ruling party in India).
We can be Sure that All political parties would have their IT cells, but here is #bjp’s own functions.
A Deluge of messages.
Soft porn, and then,
Hard porn.
I got it all, I tell You! The word ‘dear,’ Nowhere meaning it, as can be seen in figure 4 clearly, signifying ‘the personalised porn,’ as promised by this ‘Malviya,’ who is reputed to be the head of the #bjp IT cell.
Starting from ‘dears,’ it went on to barechested men, bikini clad girls, and developed to erect male members. Yeck.
I have to go through the many messages and deal with them individually; or else cannot use that section for the few that I need.
All this to show how my time is getting wasted, And to show what a Useless, Uncouth, Uncultured party We have at India’s centre today.
My Own Country; and it pains me to call it that. But Needs Must.
Sadly, Girls (for it is Mostly Girls) – getting Raped, even Gang-raped,
Even Brutalised in the process, – as in inserting Heated Iron Rods into their Private parts,
– Even getting Killed after all that, ( Showing these modern Rapists Also have Blood Lust ),
And the girls Dying by being Set on Fire…
All this does not Bother Too many people.
As in pointing out Where We Have to Change, In all this I blame Ourselves, The Citizens, First. Lewd Pictures, Posters, Advertisements, Songs and Movies, are Accepted by Us; We do not Protest against them… Not at Home, Nor in Our Conversations and Writings. Not Enough. Let Not The Crusaders get hot over this.
It falls upon Religious Leaders to Inculcate Right Values; and tell me the last time You found them doing that; Powerfully, Incessantly, as Christ would have done. The Precise Reason I Keep Castigating Our Dear, Good Pope.
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As things Stand, where We expect Sense, Decency and Direction in the ‘leaders’ of the Civil world, We find a Lot of Blah, Empty Words, which I find a Mockery.
As the link shows, All four Accused were Apprehended, and after a Furore from the Public, killed by the the police in what they called an ‘Encounter,’ in India coming to mean ‘Allowing’ Accused to Run, and then Shoot and Kill them. Here is what I had written about that:
1. Have No sympathy for the Accused. Suggest they should have been burnt.
2. But Sentence Should have come from #courts. There are Too many Loopholes in the #encounter.
3. Physically, to say All Four were killed is Brainlessness. At 3 o’clock at night, All Four are Shot, no one in the Arms or the Shoulders, but Mortal wounds, …and None of them had Surrendered?
4. #police had #KILLED at orders of #politicos, pure and simple.
5. #encounter Further proves Absolute Uselessness of Indian #courts, who just examine papers, and are NOT delivering #justice in any way.
6. #police totally happy to carry out orders of #politicalmasters.
7. End Result: NO Morals.
Accused Needed MOST severe punishment. But #police story HUMBUG. And police are #KILLERS.
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Many Spoke up Against this ‘encounter.’
The Chief judge of India bleated that ‘Instant’ justice is Revenge. …I have Issues on his use of the word ‘instant.’ And this is what I wrote:
1. Chief JUDGE of India, the #cji, ( let’s STOP calling these fellows ‘justice,’ ) said Instance justice is Revenge.
Going on a Side note, he is merely playing with Words. What We want is SPEEDY JUSTICE. When they cannot provide that, let the #judiciary resign and Sell Pakoras.
[ On Pakoras, the prime minister of India, I think, had said at one time that it is Impossible to provide jobs for Everyone, – which is Very True, of course, but the statement carried a Levity about it, going on further to say that people can sell Pakoras, a kind of Indian Street food, mostly made of Gram flour over Onions, fried. ]
Politicians, generally the Most Blase of the lot, have been speaking up; again generally ‘merely’ criticising the ‘ruling’ party.
One Akhilesh Yadav was quite vociferous. On him:
2. #akhilesh is raising his own Drama. It was in ‘his’ time that Two Minor Girls were Burnt and Hung on a tree at Badauni UP, in May 2014, pic attached. …And it was ‘his’ father who had said: #BoysWillBeBoys.
And concluding, the #police are Really working Hard to Prove themselves the Dogs to the Pigs of Animal Farm.
3. #police [ Small case as a mark of Disrespect ], who have been called ‘gorement’ – my own spelling for that, – Gundas, are proving that name Right. #police are Proving they are the #Dogs of the #AnimalFarm. …All this on #Unnao.
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Let US get Cracking now; Incessantly trying to Inculcate Values.
lovehappinessandpeace 
